Nature's Intelligence vs Human Narratives

Speaker 2 0:53

So when I think of putting trust in well , giving handing over control to nature's intelligence and just letting life flow , when something happens and it's , you know , a challenge last week you spoke about it it's like not a you can't say that the universe is testing you . Yes , and I just I think so many questions stem from this , so I think I'd just like to talk more on it , but it's kind of like is that just like the human condition to extract meaning and want to create a story ? When is that what's happened ?

Speaker 1 1:32

Yeah , okay . So when , when we are confronted with any , any experience in any moment , what we're doing is we're processing that experience through a lens or a filter that has been constructed through the experience of being alive from birth to now , and the environment which we grew up in formulates the details , the tone , if you like , and either the haziness or the clarity , but often the filter is skewed in some way that creates a shape of reality that informs the way in which we receive it and that we respond . For the most part , most of us can be pretty assured that the way in which we have been brought up is skewed with the bias of ignorance of our deeper spiritual nature , and so , therefore , the way in which we process our experience is without an awareness of what it is that makes us us . We are essentially spiritual beings having a human experience , not human beings seeking a spiritual experience , and just that . The confusion of that in itself is , you know , a massive like sort of inverted convex lens . We're seeing things in almost the opposite of of how things are .

Speaker 1 3:33

When trying to better ourselves and improve ourselves , we are in a pursuit of acquisition of some sort . The truth is in our deepest nature we're whole and complete as we are , nothing that we can acquire outside of ourselves are . Nothing that we can acquire outside of ourselves , including ideas , will make us any more complete than we naturally are . The truth is that the pursuit of the spiritual experience is a deconstruction

We Are Spiritual Beings Having Human Experiences

Speaker 1 4:08

of ideas and memories of the way in which the world has behaved towards us that's informed us of some ignorant view of ourself . Anything that isn't my nature , is divine , is askew on reality , and all of that is upheld by stories that we tell ourselves . And as we move more deeply into our spiritual nature , we drag some of that conditioning into the experience of awakening . It's not like we pass through some threshold and we leave all of our baggage at the door and we're awake . It's far more messy than that , as we all know . We drag our conditioning into this spiritual realm and we impose narrative over this pure spiritual experience that has very little to do with the reality of what we're experiencing . This is a natural process of weaning ourself off our ignorance and being able to accurately determine what it is that's going on right now , and invariably we will impose narratives like the universe is just testing me right now into the experience that we're having in order to , as you said , justify or explain away or give reason to what's happening . But the discourse last week we talked about how it's a misconception . It's a classic human projection on the divine Right that the divine is somehow testing us .

Speaker 1 6:10

Life is just a procession of opportunity . To awaken A test implies pass or fail . There's no fail . There is only ever-increasing grades of awakeness , occurring in every moment , increasingly more awake , more awake , more awake . You missed that opportunity , no worries , here's the next one . Oh , you missed that opportunity , no worries , here's the next one .

Speaker 1 6:36

There's no last chance mentality . There's no . Oh sorry , missed the boat . You had to get enlightened by this life . It didn't happen Into oblivion . It doesn't work like that . It doesn't work like that . So this but with this last chance mentality that we have is deeply ingrained in the way in which we process everything from work , career , relationships you know there might be one that got away . Oh , that was the one . There are plenty of other candidates coming your way . Whether you like it or not , jobs

Life as Opportunity, Not Tests

Speaker 1 7:19

, opportunities , holidays , whatever . Relative to the karma , what you need to experience in order to evolve , what you can be assured of is that the universe , nature's intelligence , is always conspiring to your highest and most evolutionary experience , and it's not contingent on whether you pass a test or not . It is contingent on your capacity to detect this wave of opportunity that's passing . Everything comes in cycles and waves .

Speaker 2 7:55

Can I ask what you think of the term like trusting in the universe ?

Speaker 1 7:59

then it's like trust , hope , faith are all gateway drugs to knowing right . In the absence of knowing oneself as divine intelligence , a part of the fabric of the universe that never ceases to inform itself of what it is that's happening inside of each of us in every passing moment , the extent to which you're able to detect that or not is the extent to which there is still work to be done . And in the absence of knowing , really knowing or having an opposing narrative , feel like it's overbearing your sense of knowingness we apply a tactic of faith , trust and hope ,

Trust as a Gateway to Knowing

Speaker 1 9:06

but they're not anything to build a house on . But they're not anything to build a house on . You know , I trust is saying I don't really know , but I'm going to do it anyway . Ah , it's terrifying , it's no way to live . But we take steps in trust to build the momentum of discovering .

Speaker 1 9:29

Oh okay , there are some people that get stuck in trust , in hope and faith . They're not paying attention to what the universe is revealing . They do research , over and over again , the same research and apply the same protocols , which is disbelief that the universe even knows I exist . Let's see , it's a preposterous notion to consider that God doesn't know who we are or what we are intimately because there's no separation between us and that For God to be God , god is all-knowing , all places , all time , all things , for eternity . We exist within that . So therefore we are in the consciousness of the divine .

Speaker 1 10:34

It's only our human indoctrination into insignificance , unworthiness and smallness that we find it difficult to take the leap in our nervous system to allow ourselves to fully be in the experience of being divine . For most people , there's a great deal of pain moving in that direction , because there's so much that's happened to us in our life or lifetimes that has told us the opposite of this truth , that you are in fact worthless , you're an object to be used to create greater advantage for my own hedonistic pursuits of self-gratification self-gratification and to some extent we've all been exposed to this and that creates trauma in the nervous system , and that trauma interferes with our capacity to detect the subtlety of the divine . And so the work is , the call to action is to resolve that , to confront whatever it is that is inhibiting you accepting your divine nature . That means sitting in the propaganda of ignorance that's been imposed upon you by ignorant states of consciousness .

Speaker 2 12:05

So , if I'm understanding , like , if , like , doors are opening and closing for us in life , it's less about trust , but just like receptivity to okay this is closed and that's okay , I'm going this way , like you're just , there's no resistance . That's what we're moving towards , correct ?

Speaker 1 12:25

Okay , and initially you may . You know if you , if you , don't have a sense of that

Breaking Free from Validation Addiction

Speaker 1 12:31

, at some point , when we are vigilant in , in seeking to detect the continuum of intelligence playing out in this moment , when we get into the habit of that , eventually that awareness becomes stable and we no longer find ourselves doubting or questioning what's taking place . Furthermore , we notice that any rigid attachment to any kind of outcome , sort of is naturally not there . We find ourselves recovering very quickly from an unmet expectation . We even bypass the whole disappointment experience . We're just like , oh , that didn't happen , okay , what next ? Where are we going ? There's curiosity there that dominates the experience .

Speaker 1 13:19

Openness , because we've weaned ourself off needing to validate ourself and our existence , to qualify our existence by temporal , relative , circumstantial comings and goings , certain events , certain interactions , certain bad thoughts . Exactly , they're all traps , yep , yep , they're traps , exactly . And at some point we become very artful in being able to let go and direct our attention appropriately to what next , where ? Oh , it's here , and we feel it abstractly . Here it's a much deeper , quieter , knowingness , experience that's out of the realm of fear and anxiety and the need to control , strategize , to execute outcomes , to continue validating like addicts . Give me the validation I need the validation . I need the validation and , in the same way that a junkie loses their last hit down the drain because it fell out of their pocket , when an unmet expectation occurs , that is going to validate us . We can carry on like junkies . We have junkie tantrums .

Speaker 2 14:59

Looking for the next hit .

Speaker 1 15:00

Looking for the next hit . Yeah , and we need to be gentle with ourselves in our observation of all of this , because we can observe it and see the futility of it and still find ourselves doing it , because it's deeply ingrained , it's so thick in the culture that we grow up in , it's like the air we breathe , it's just there . You know the need for external validation and the pursuit for it is in almost every social dynamic , in every culture . It's structured itself . We celebrate it , we celebrate it .

The Challenge of Awakening

Speaker 1 15:53

And so to extricate yourself without damaging either your own nervous system or somebody else's because when we tap out of that paradigm , we highlight the futility of it Our very presence can really disturb and upset people because , indirectly , you're pointing out what they intuitively know but can't break away from it themselves , and so it's a tricky business . The whole thing of waking up is a tricky business . It's certainly a hard thing to sell on a pamphlet , right ? And yet , when we are awake , this knowledge is extraordinary , the awareness of it is extraordinary .