Speaker 2: 0:53

you mentioned before, we are spiritual beings and it just like hit something me. It's like, oh yeah, that's right oh yeah, that's right that's what he just did it literally was like that. I was like yeah oh yeah, I just looked at it like, yeah, he knows it. Just, you remember, you remembered, yeah, and I wanted to talk about that, like how we're spiritual beings, because there's the underlying field of intelligence that's unmanifest, and then we are, we are souls.

Speaker 1: 1:39

Yes, we're souls and a soul. The soul is a, an arbitrary english word. It's a sound that has been assigned to the essential form of what we refer to our self as self. In Sanskrit, it is atma. Atma is the sound expressive of our most essential form, which is light, not just in some romantic sense, but literally the light of the divine, which sets before sound yes.

Speaker 2: 2:33

It's before it's actually bifurcated.

Speaker 1: 2:36

Yeah, that is the intention of the soul in the mind of God is before sound. So, before the soul emerges, there is an intention for it to do so and that's happening in the deepest, most regions of the divine mind. That's where we come from. We're not some accident. Our existence is an arbitrary. We're intended with great force. We were sanctioned with intention, for a function for purpose, for a function for purpose, and our experience is incredibly.

Speaker 1: 3:21

There's not even a word to describe how relevant we are to the source that created us, that is ultimately us. Our relevance is immeasurable. It's immeasurable. It's immeasurable, so much so that once we are created, it we're not just there's, there's, it's not destroyed, we just expand into the totality nature. Yes, I took a leap there. We are so relevant, we're not expendable. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 4:10

This lifetime is but one of many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many lives. We take bodies, bodies, bodies, bodies, bodies, bodies, and we fulfill a function in nature which is to inform the whole thing of what it's like to be me. This is a very beautiful, unique window for the totality to experience itself, infinity in a container, to know what it's like to be me, what it's like to be you, it's the thing that gives it meaning and purpose. Without the expression of life, of otherness, it's just one whole, indivisible field of infinite consciousness. Think about that Infinite awareness with no form, no feature to enable it to identify itself as self because there's no otherness in it A just, infinite, supersymmetric is-ness Always was, always will be, had no beginning, it had no end.

Speaker 1: 5:24

It is the is-ness, and contained within it is infinite creative potential and all the energy to give rise to that potentiality, instantly for infinity. This is the nature of our reality, of our existence, and this is what we are of. So you ask, are we spiritual in our nature? That's what we are of. So you asked, you know, are we spiritual in our nature? That's what we are of. Infinite intelligence. And if we could behold ourselves as Atman, we'd see ourselves as the most beautiful, radiant light body.

Speaker 2: 6:14

That's why, masters, you know, they, they said that, they that they're actually light. Like you know, when we're looking up there, they're effervescent. They're effervescent because it's it's, it's the source light. Yes correct, it's just shining.

Speaker 1: 6:28

He's pointing to the Guru Parampara of the Vedic tradition, the Shankaracharya tradition, where all the masters are depicted as being glowing, which is a depiction of their state of consciousness, where the soul pervades and permeates the gross reality and it's just light. Yeah, so that's what we are. That's what we are. That's what we are, and the artistry of our existence is actually to detect that where it is otherwise not apparent, to see the divine where others are not, the purpose of our enlightenment is to see the divine in this gross reality. One of the most famous stories of Gurudev, swami Brahmananda, the one that's sitting under the umbrella here, swami Brahmananda Saraswati there was like a game that was played by people to try and get him to actually say something bad about something, something negative, and they would try and bait him and it would never happen. And one day the story goes they were walking down a street to somewhere, to a big thing, and one of the devotees goes oh, guruji, look this terrible, rotting carcass of a dog with the maggots, you know, the skull, half exposed, exposed, and apparently all that was said was beautiful white teeth. There's all kinds of versions of the story. Yeah, yeah, look at the beautiful white teeth. Yeah, you know so, and you know these, these are, these stories are told as like parables for teaching, you know, to remind us of what, what, what we're, we're, what we're moving towards. And we don't want to fake it, you know, we don't want to pretend to only only see you know, you know, because then spiritual bypassing

Speaker 1: 8:52

yeah, we. You become a very, very difficult person to be around. It's very stinky when someone is pretending to only see the divine when actually on the inside they're, they're not doing great at all, so we only be where we're at. But we understand what's happening here. There is a state of consciousness that evolves that we spontaneously notice that in what would otherwise be considered something not very pretty, not very beautiful, we see beauty in it.

Speaker 1: 9:33

Again, it's opportunity. We see the opportunity to reveal the divine in everything. The divine is in everything, and this is a state of consciousness that unearths that. It's a very, very special state of consciousness and we need more and more and more people bringing it on, awakening that, because ultimately, what governs the collective experience is the investment and the belief in one thing or another, and the belief in one thing or another, and the one thing or the other that we are deeply invested in. That's dominant is that we humans are wretched creatures, wretched, terrible. We're terrible creatures and we're making such a mess of this world and this planet and we're the reason. This is a big mistake of our understanding of reality.