Speaker 1 0:52

this is kind of like a follow-up question from a few weeks ago . I was asking a question about spiritual evolution and whether we're going backwards when we look at some , um , old civilizations like atlantis and such lemuria . And then you were saying , well , we don't really know their d DNA and they might not have been human , so can we even go there and say that they're on the same path as we are ? And then what came up for me was that some people recall lives in those places being a human now . So my question is then can we , even though we don't know what kind of beings there were living there , as a soul , would we be able

Question about spiritual evolution

Speaker 1 1:41

to enter different types of… ?

Speaker 2 1:44

Yes .

Speaker 1 1:44

Yes , okay .

Speaker 2 1:46

We can enter different kinds of bodies . So in the Vedas we know there is a race known as the Asuras , the Rakshas , that have been interbreeding with the human race for thousands and thousands of years . Yeah , that aren't human . And there is a great case for the Daevic beings that we refer to , the angelic beings that have also been breeding into the human race , and there's stories of this throughout all different ancient cultures . What are the origins of my people ? In so many traditions they talk about

Different beings and consciousness advancement

Speaker 2 2:46

other races , other species coming from different places , and that's certainly the case in the Vedas as well . But to answer your question , are we going backwards ? The simple answer is always no . Consciousness is always advancing , the human experience is always advancing , the universe is always advancing . All there is is evolution . What is the one thing that underlies everything all the time ? What is consistently happening all the time ? Evolution . We are advancing from one state into another , we are advancing from one state into another , and it's riddled with futility trying to understand the chronological experience of humanity based on current versions of history or only looking at it from a linear timeline , because there is so much happening in the evolution of our species . In subtler dimensions of consciousness , there are worlds within worlds , realities within realities within human consciousness . And as we wake up the vertical space in our consciousness , we are waking up to these worlds that are happening simultaneously . There are many narratives that are taking place in our consciousness simultaneously , many lines of narratives , and we've got a very , very superficial understanding of this for most people , you know , there's the personality that everybody sees and experiences in the outside world , that may appear , you know , always happy and jovial and cracking jokes . But then there's the next layer of narrative , which is the personality which is on the inside .

Layers of narrative within consciousness

Speaker 2 4:52

That's kind of strategizing to always crack the jokes and make it , you know , appear happy . And then there's another layer that is kind of a little unsure , confused , and , you know , maybe vulnerable and you know , but sweet and kind , but you know , and then sometimes nasty . And then there's a deeper layer that's eternally compassionate , and then another layer that is eternally wise and compassionate .

Speaker 2 5:25

And as we get deeper and deeper , more and more of us is revealed , deeper and deeper , more and more of us is revealed . And in that depth , what is also revealed is the realm in which that aspect of ourselves exists . We are divine in our nature and that divinity is an experience that is had at the depth of ourself . The experience of our divine nature , when awoken , reveals that the soul exists within a divine reality and we can awaken to that divine reality and move about in it while we are simultaneously in this surface layer reality , within this space . Right now , there is this happening and then there are subtler spiritual dimensions that are present , all happening in this space . There are beings sitting around watching us having this conversation , observing , going huh and everything else that they're doing , and then there are subtler

Divine intelligence driving all realities

Speaker 2 6:44

layers to that , and then subtler layers and subtler layers and subtler layers , and the subtler it gets , the closer to the source of what we are , reveals itself , becomes apparent till we get to the source of the divine the Godhead , if you like , of which , when we awaken to that , realize , huh , it's all me , into that , realize huh , it's all me .

Speaker 2 7:17

And it's that that is driving everything that's happening through all the layers . That intelligence , that supreme divine intelligence , is driving everything that's happening through all the layers to this reality . And in the surface layers there are some malevolent , cheeky , you know , destruction monsters , operators that love to wreak havoc with this world , but they only go so far , they only go that deep , they don't go all the way . They can't exist in the brightness and the lightness of these deeper , more foundational divine realities . And so we need not worry , because the thing that's operating , truly operating this whole thing , is divine . It's the divinity that is the true chief operating officer . Okay , yeah , and all that's oozing out of that reality is creative intelligence that is driving evolution , and all we need to do is lend our attention to it .

Speaker 2 8:45

This is why we meditate , we turn our attention inward , we allow our senses , our mind , our whole experience to be immersed in this experience of our divinity . We submerge into it , we bathe , we come out , we turn our senses outward and we allow the world to be exposed to that . We allow ourselves to be exposed to the world and in that interaction we learn how to integrate it . And then we go in again , and then we come out , we expose ourselves , we integrate , and then we go in again , in and out , like this , until eventually this and this become stable as one thing . That's what we're after

Meditation as integration of divinity

Speaker 2 9:34

, because when that becomes stable , then we are an open vessel for the divine to acquire the nervous system fully and rise up through us and just blast out of our individual consciousness state . We become the agent of its intelligence .

Speaker 2 10:02

This is what we were designed for , and all we're doing here is reading the user manual , refining our understanding of how the dials and the buttons work . And it's really a very , very elegant design in so much as how do we activate the higher state ? We just let go . We allow the attention to effortlessly turn inward , let it all happen naturally , and then we come out . It's very elegant like this we just allow the natural rhythms of nature's intelligence direct us , like this , and eventually we just notice that it's happening .

Speaker 2 10:58

It's just like oh , it becomes apparent that you're having that kind of

Becoming an agent of divine intelligence

Speaker 2 11:06

experience and , as meditators , you're noticing it intermittently . It's there and then it's not . It's there and then it's notently . It's there and then it's not . It's there and then it's not . It's there and then it's not . This is fine . This is all part of the process . This is how it goes . Old habits are hard to break , but they they iron themselves out pretty quick if you're dedicated to . But they iron themselves out pretty quick if you're dedicated to ceasing to ignore what you're experiencing . Because when you cease to ignore what you're actually experiencing , what you notice is that there is a divine reality underlying your experience . It's always there . Sometimes it's a little more difficult to detect with the abrasiveness of pain and the purging of trauma . But that's all fine as well , because

The elegance of spiritual awakening

Speaker 2 12:08

at the end of the day , everything is fine , everything is okay .