Navigating Multiple Desires

Speaker 1 0:53

just in relation to desire and the desire system of how we sort of orient ourselves best in the world, say, um, there's quite a lot of desires usually floating around in the human, some of them a little bit less refined perhaps, and the more we practice, the more we get in touch with the deeper ones perhaps.

Speaker 1 1:21

But even so, where I'm at in my meditations at the moment, my practice, I have a bigger say, longer time frame, maybe more personal desires that have require a certain amount of action towards um, and then there's waking up every day and then the barrage of desires that come as I meet and interact with different people and I'm inspired to nurture a relationship or to provide something for someone or and also things myself, through nutrition system. It's okay, that would be really nice to. It feels like I really would like this kind of food, for example, and sometimes it's separate to. I want this food because I feels yummy and I want something yummy. Sometimes it's like, oh, this is kind of more nurturing and relevant. It's quite hard to discern a path through all of these when you know I've got time. Constraint is a time constraint yes.

Speaker 2 2:31

So from the Vedic perspective, desire is the way in which nature's intelligence, the divine, communicates its will through our individuality. The human ego structure is not the author of the desire, and this is where we humans go wrong. We experience a desire, we claim it and we bastardize it and hijack its energy in order to fulfill our hedonistic needs. Generally to we use it as a means of externally attempting to externally validate our relevance and significance in the world. Desire is actually, and there aren't different kinds of desires. Really, it's like saying there is different kinds of intelligence. It's either intelligence or it's not Desire, and there isn't necessarily good desires and bad desires.

Speaker 2 3:48

What makes a desire either functional or dysfunctional is the localized consciousness experience's relationship to the divine intelligence. Divine intelligence is divine intelligence. Somebody gets an impulse and they interpret it this way, and somebody in a higher state is going to interpret it in this way. Why? Because their capacity to interact with the intelligence has been purified. That is to say that the individual experiencing the desire is not looking at the desire through the lens of what the desire can do for me, through the lens of what the desire can do for me, rather taking the impulse of creative intelligence that's moving me to move this way or that, as an impulse from the divine to move in the direction where there is need and to bring my fulfillment to that need.

Liberating Our True Design

Speaker 2 4:55

And this is the quantum leap in consciousness experiences moving from being externally identified, taking your cues for what to do and to understand who you are as an individual, taking those cues from external impulses strategically seeking validation, creating manipulating circumstances to elicit a certain response, to continue validating what you feel you need to hear in order to bridge the gap in your awareness of yourself, shifting from that state to a state of being internally referenced, where you're taking your cues from subtle impulses that are emerging from a very deep sense of knowingness, and what's structured within those impulses is insight, understanding of how to actualize what is the intelligence that is contained in that impulse and move in the direction of making it happen, with the awareness that this energy is a blessing from a deep place that is giving this individuality the highest purpose, reason for existence and capability to serve the highest order of creation To serve it. But that requires one surrendering as a servant to it, and that's big work, because surrendering in service to the divine we have all kinds of interesting fears and insecurities and layers of unworthiness and all of that. To really feel that I am someone that is worthy of being an agent of the divine requires a great deal of work confronting all that we loathe about ourself, purifying the inner space to allow that intelligence to occupy our inner reality, our consciousness, and organize itself spontaneously in wonderful ways where we just want to create something out of it. And this is why doing that cleansing, purification of our psyche, our emotions, our past, confronting it all vigilantly as it arises is such an important thing to do, because then it purifies our capacity to interact with the desire we are able to freely accept it, because certain ideas that we have light us up for a minute and then we start to think about the reality of it. Oh no, I can't do that. I'm utterly unworthy of that. Who do I think I am and we agree to maintain the status quo live in a cage of mediocrity and compromise which is utterly unsatisfying, utterly dissatisfying to the yearning for us to be free, liberated, for us to be free, liberated and bringing the best of ourselves into the world. And this is our social responsibility.

Speaker 2 8:42

Spiritual social responsibility is to liberate the design. You hear me say that. Liberate the design. What is the design? We are intelligence. Design. What is the design? We are intelligence. This body is designed to be an uprising fountain of intelligence and just be expressive of intelligence all the time that organizes, that organizes, elevates, evolves, advances. That's what we're designed to be. We need to liberate that, and the way that we liberate that is confronting whatever negates it, what negates it. Fear Pain, it fear pain. The memory of times where we were not seen as divine and we have to, and then desire becomes a very clear thing. It's, it's, the impulse is very clear. Know what to do? There's no thinking about it, it's just boom, let's go, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump. And the, the, the, the impulse cat contains with it the, the energy, the ideas, the process, the enthusiasm to maintain it. It's only when we've got the little gremlins in the background that start to interfere with the way in which that intelligence flows. We've got to confront those little buggers.

Speaker 1 10:42

Maybe it's more confronting because it feels like they're all worthwhile.

Speaker 2 10:48

Okay, so maybe I've misunderstood your question.

Speaker 1 10:52

No, I mean, I'm sure there's a part of it that's like that, but it feels like I've got just too many desires that feel worthwhile. At the end of the day, and I do an audit, it's like ah, ah, but you didn't do those other ones that you really, really want to do, and you did some of these smaller ones, more relating to immediate surroundings or shorter time frames yeah like rearranging the spice drawer because I'm getting into, I evaded cooking.

Speaker 1 11:21

It's like where did that come from? That doesn't help me do these other things that I also really want to do. I'm loving getting into that, but it's like it's just taking me away from other ones, and it's like that you know, so best for you to not refer to them as ones.

Process Over Outcome

Speaker 2 11:38

Look at it as one continuous stream of consciousness and you are filled with oh, and everywhere you look there's potential for creation. And then you know, like a kid in a candy store, you have to temper, you know what candy you go for. There is intelligence in every moment, in everything. And then there is a deeper impulse. There is a much deeper impulse that contains the story, the overarching story, of what are the deepest desires that really need to be fulfilled. And then, once you've connected with that overarching story, that sense of it, and if you're unsure about it, err on the side of experimentation, curiosity. Just throw yourself into things. I'm not sure if this is what I really want to do. Okay, we'll just go try it and see if the flame grows bigger or it goes out and something else is. And at the end of the day, what we need to be reminded of is that it doesn't matter what you do, it's how you do it. The universe isn't dependent on you accomplishing that milestone as the thing. The thing is, what is the state of consciousness that is constantly evolving and advancing and growing to get to that point? The how is far more important than the what. The process of being in awareness, in the present moment, participating in the stream of life, is what is important. The what it's secondary, sometimes only just. But when we've developed the habit of sustaining connection with that intelligence, what we notice is that things can change on a dime, and one of the qualities that we notice that we have is adaptability and the ability to recover from what might feel like a little bit of disappointment, from one thing not happening because and our ability to recover is because oh, that was leading me to this and the transfer of consciousness is moving from outcome-orientated, rigid, milestone, goal-focused existence to a fluid state where you're just moving and you've got ideas and you move in the direction of it. They may happen, they may not, no problem, because we're doing this now. And it lends itself far greater to an experience of joy, fulfillment, being relaxed about the unknown, unpredictability, and it keeps you connected to what's most important and it isn't the fruition of the thing we're creating. Great, it got done, beautiful, I'm still here in myself, connected with the divine. Ah, this is the main event. Right here, right now. No condition to that rule. Right here, right now, is the main event. All the things that I create are like great, secondary to the whoo, and so best not to look at desire as, just like these little things, baubles on a tree. Think of it as a stream, an experience, intelligence. And then, as we mature spiritually and we have sufficient evidence of our power and our capability, we begin to start imagining what we're really capable of and start moving in the direction of that. But we won't do that until we moving in the direction of that, but we won't do that until we've got sufficient evidence of our capability, fear will dominate and we'll dip our toe in, and that's all fine, because that's part of the process. Don't be concerned about that. Toe dipping is fine, but not as a strategy, as a tactic, when we've got sufficient evidence.

Speaker 2 16:16

Stop ignoring what you know. There's a condition of our psyche where we insist on repeating the same experiments over and over and over again. Is it true? Is it real? Let me try again. Is it true? Is it real? Huh, here it is, let me try again. Is it true? Is it real? Huh, here it is, let me try again. Like this we do that.

Auditing Attachment to Outcomes

Speaker 2 16:35

At what point do we graduate ourself? We graduate ourself when we get sick and tired of experiencing the same thing over and over again, but it's nice to hear from somebody that actually we want to err on the side of almost prematurely graduating ourself. Throw ourself in the deep end and learn to swim, work it out in the flow of it. Yeah so, and the desires become clearer and clearer, and clearer in context to what you understand yourself to be as an individual consciousness experience, a localized consciousness event. What is this? You start to pay attention to how it's affecting those that you're in contact with. You start to understand what you are as an instrument of divine intelligence, and you start to get good at how to operate it so that you're having the desired effect. You are giving fulfillment to the desire. Up comes the desire you're having in in connection with people and animals, and whatever trees, birds, the clouds, everything it's useful for sure, so perhaps a better way.

Speaker 1 18:24

If I'm looking to give myself some feedback on whether I'm accurately responding to these desires, I should see how the process that I choose to adopt in relation to those desires, see how that relates to my state of consciousness, as opposed to anything, an outcome or a step along the way.

Speaker 2 18:52

I just keep saying you know how's my state of consciousness feel about this, yeah, version yes, and you know, a good litmus test of whether we're sort of acting in the name of, you know, nature's highest intent or our own sort of is to go. Would I be disappointed if this didn't happen? And if there is some degree of disappointment, there is some attachment to the outcome. And if there's some attachment to the outcome, all it requires is you go okay, what do I think that this is going to deliver me?

Speaker 2 19:34

And when you analyze it and you go through that process, it will reveal some really wonderful things. There's a really wonderful process to go enter into and you can be auditing this all day long. You know, and you're not in your head, you're in your heart about it. You're not analyzing it here, you're feeling when is the attachment? What do I think that this is going to bring me? Is it true? And it will unearth some deep like ugh. I really felt like I needed that, but you know that's not going to deliver me happiness and it's just a matter of being honest with yourself and ceasing to ignore what you discover in this process.